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    • I hate blogs, bloggers and blogging

      Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 21:52 UTC

      Attending the SciBlog 2008 conference last week gave me a chance to weigh up my opinion of blogs, bloggers and blogging. And I’ve decided that I hate them all.

      Not the concept or the people or the activity, you understand, but the words. They stick in my throat. As I would have said when I was growing up in Northern Ireland, they make me want to boke.

      I know the etymology: web-log, b-log, blog. It makes perfect sense but it’s such a silly-sounding word that it seems to demean the process. I would be embarrassed to admit that I do it, just because it has such a stupid name.

      And yet the call went out from the conference for more senior people to get blogging and that struck a chord that has been twanging — a little mutedly perhaps — at the back of my mind for a few months now. Not that I regard myself as so very senior. Yes, I am a professor and I’m serious about my science; but I’m still just shy of my mid-forties and like to think of myself as a young man. However, the truth of the matter is beginning to weigh on me; I now have to lift my eye-glasses to read the date on my watch, so I guess I have to face facts.

      So here goes. I won’t promise to post regularly; that way I will avoid the repetition of future apologies for failing to write. I won’t promise to be unembarrassed to admit that I am a blogger. I won’t promise to have anything terribly insightful to say.

      But I will share my experiences of science — such as they are and as frankly as I can — and look forward to engaging with the community on Nature Network. Indeed, I have already enjoyed that burgeoning sense of community these past few months while lurking in the background, only stepping forward now and then to comment. One of the real joys of the conference, as Dr Rohn and Dr Kushnir (among others) have remarked, was finally meeting in the flesh some of those people (OK, OK… bloggers) whom I’d only come to know from their online persona.

      And you never know, perhaps one day I’ll get comfortable with the idea of… blogging. But even then, I’ll still loathe the phrase ‘Web 2.0’.

      Last updated: Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 21:52 UTC

      • Comments

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 21:58 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          haha! I’ve just completed a report on the Conference for my Dean, and had to grit my teeth every time I wrote ‘blog’. Maybe we should have a suicide pact, Stephen, and only ever use ‘weblog’?

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 22:04 UTC
          Frank Norman said:

          Stephen – I do agree re. the sound of the word. I ignored all this bloggery for a long time. It seemed a silly word and therefore the thing itself must be silly. Blogosphere – what is that??

          The other problem I realised anew at the conference was the huge range of blogging, and the difficulty of encompassing them all in one word.

          It’s a bit like the word “writer” – it covers literary writers, possibly also journalistic writers, science writers, but probably not scientist writers. “Blogger” is not enough to encompass all these varieties, I feel.

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 22:15 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          @Richard and Frank

          Glad to hear I’m not the only one with that particular aversion.
          Mind if I pass on the suicide pact, Richard?

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 22:20 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          Web comics cartoonists Drew and Natalie often make fun of bloggers (of course, they also have a blog)-

          Married To The Sea

          Natalie Dee

          Toothpaste for Dinner

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 22:39 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Thanks for the links Kristi – I didn’t know any of these cartoonists. My current favorite is XKCD where blogging sometimes crops up.

        • Date:
          Tuesday, 09 Sep 2008 - 23:13 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          Yes, I do mind, Stephen. Damned crystallographers, the lot of you.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 01:43 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          I think both Natalie and Drew (Toothpaste for Dinner) work on Married to the Sea; they also have movies and animations of their two pug dogs. I use web comics and LOLCats to supplement my lectures – usually I can find relevant ones related to brains, teeth, doctors, dentists, and scientists.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 06:36 UTC
          Heather Etchevers said:

          All alternatives seem doomed to be dismissed as simple products of a cantankerous mind. So, shrug. I do refuse to employ the whole “2.0” thing except with respect to relevant software, because it’s been bandied about for far too long to still be applicable, and everyone means something different by it, anyhow. Nothing on the internet now is particularly different from what was on there fifteen years ago, in any case. it’s just easier to find for the neophyte.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 06:39 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          hey Henry, you have a contender for the curmudgeonly crown.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 07:20 UTC
          Brian Clegg said:

          Absolutely with you Stephen – I have always found the word irritating, so try to avoid using it as much as possible. I just think of it as writing a comment column that other people can respond to.

          (I don’t think it’s quite as bad, however, as the name of a website my agent runs, which refers to itself as a ‘writers’ colony.’ I shudder as a type it.)

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 07:27 UTC
          Mike Fowler said:

          Colony, the collective noun for a group of writers. Clearly derived from the Greek word “kolon”, cos we’re all full of…

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:11 UTC
          Jennifer Rohn said:

          But even then, I’ll still loathe the phrase ‘Web 2.0’.

          I’ve been noticing that the cool kids on the block only say “web two” now. So drop the “point oh” if you want to flash your mutton/lamb credentials!

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:14 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          For sure there’s no alternative, Heather, but that needn’t get in the way of a good rant. However, I think Henry’s crown is safe, Richard – I have no plans to make this into a regular diatribe. Plus he has such wonderful panache!

          Brian – the notion of a writers colony immediately conjured an image of slightly dishevelled people on a desert island, each squatting cantankerously in front of a typewriter…

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:17 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          @Jenny: …drop the “point oh” if you want to flash your mutton/lamb credentials!

          I’m afraid I don’t have any of those. Will geek credentials do?

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:39 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          Not when you screw up the link, no.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:48 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Great! This means I’m probably not a geek after all! (There will be many more screw-ups as this blog continues…).

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 08:51 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          You’re not a geek Stephen: you’re a nerd.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 09:06 UTC
          Jeff Marlow said:

          Hey Stephen – glad to see you decided to take the plunge!

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 09:33 UTC
          Matt Brown said:

          Welcome to our colony, Stephen. And congratulations on using the word ‘boke’. I haven’t heard that since I was a nipper, and assumed it was Grimsby (where I grew up) slang.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 09:43 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          With a title like this one to draw the comments, you are a veteran already, Stephen!
          The blog dashboard (or as I call it, “works”) on the platform I use refers to “weblogs”, eg “publish weblog” etc. I feel it is being very polite and deferential, formal even, to me. Rather nice.

          I write as one whose column in Nature is called “From the Blogosphere” – as titles in edited publications (well, Nature certainly) are the responsibility of the editors and not the mere authors, I had no say in the matter – that’s my defence anyway ;-)

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 09:45 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          PS I also meant to say “welcome” – I’m very glad you have started a xxxx, as I’ve enjoyed reading your various comments around and about this place.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 09:56 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Many thanks for your words of welcome Jeff, Matt and Maxine!

          I had forgotten the word boke (slang for vomit in case it wasn’t obvious) until I heard Tom Paulin use it on a late night review show on TV. I thought it was peculiar to Northern Ireland but clearly not. I wonder how far it’s dispersed?

          @Maxine: With a title like this one to draw the comments, you are a veteran already

          Well it was a tiny moment of inspiration. If there isn’t another one, this could be a very short-lived enterprise…

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 11:07 UTC
          Heather Etchevers said:

          Actually, “colony” makes me think of puffins. And they’re sort of endearing.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 11:11 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          But even then, I’ll still loathe the phrase ‘Web 2.0’.

          Neo-Luddite that I am, I’m still not entirely clear on what “Web 2.0” means, even after reading the Wikipedia page (actually I think that made it less clear). Perhaps it consists of many entities, each of which could provide a subject for an entertaining loom smashing quill pen written curmudgeonly rant. Like Facebook … Facebook is “Web two point oh-ish”, correct?

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 12:10 UTC
          Mark Tummers said:

          I’m going to skip on Web 2.0 and wait for web 3.0

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 12:42 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          @Kristi: I’m still not entirely clear on what “Web 2.0” means

          Nor do I, though I think it refers to the development of tools to make it easier for ordinary folk (non-geeks, like myself) to create and share content. Hence blogs (and comments), Facebook, YouTube and the like.

          Mark, you do see the logical flaw in your comment, don’t you?

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 13:21 UTC
          Mark Tummers said:

          Logic can be overridden by any emotion.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 13:57 UTC
          Mike Fowler said:

          @ Heather – Puffins are also a delicacy in Norway. They have even bred their dogs, the superbly named Lundehund with extremely flexible legs to help them get out of any tight nest holes they may have scurried down.


          Sunshine, moonlight, good times… oh bugger this for a laugh

          And web technologies (whatever point half) that enable more people to enjoy interacting on the net are probably a good thing. Share the love everyone! Doing so without having to learn html or other scripts removes the power from elitist geeks and nerds!

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 16:18 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          @Mark – Logic can be overridden by any emotion.

          Very true, alas. But you’re just digging yourself deeper into you conundrum!

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 17:47 UTC
          Pedro Beltrao said:

          Welcome then to the blo… the community of scientists writing online about science :).

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 18:05 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          I’m going to be told I am wrong, I feel it in the aether, but I think of web 1.0 as “broadcast web” (you know, all those old days when everyone tried to make “the” portal by which everyone would “go” to the web, and sold advertising space on that basis); and web 2.0 as “sharing” or “interactive” web, eg NN where users can contribute content. Web 3.0, that’s when the machines do it all for us, right?

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 18:16 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          Curmudgeonly? Moi?

          I don’t mind blog, blogosphere, blogging or Web2.0. There are plenty of other words and phrases I do mind, however. If you’ll allow me, I shall list just a few. Actually, I’ll list them even if you do mind. Just try and stop me. Remember – I have an iPhone. I know where you live.

          • synergy (-ize);
          • capacity building;
          • thinking outside the box;
          • rolling out (applied to anything except pastry or icing);
          • sacrifice (when what is meant is ‘kill in the name of science’);
          • abrogate (when what is meant is … er … abrogate);
          • core competencies;
          • running [ideas] up the flagpole;
          • at the end of the day;
          • speaking for myself personally;
          • game plan;
          • strategic fit;
          • best practice;
          • low-hanging fruit;
          • google juice;
          • ramp up;
          • wow factor;
          • in a nutshell;
          • flying a kite (except when flying a real kite);
          • service-oriented, and
          • releasing calcium from intracellular stores.

          PICNIC AT HANGING PARTICIPLE

          This last example leads me into a particular pet hate beloved of decerebrated jellyfish marketing droids: the sentence or phrase that begins with a present participle, left dangling as indelicately and as prominently as a donkey’s testicles. You know the kind of thing:

          • Gruntfuttock’s: Delivering The Promise

          I see this particularly vacuous example every day. It is on the decal inside the back window of my Volvo, advertising the dealer whence it came. I can’t think of any more at the moment as my memory has obligingly blotted them all out as being too horrible to recall.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 18:21 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          and web 2.0 as “sharing” or “interactive” web, eg NN where users can contribute content

          So, then, Web 2.0 = “Someone’s networkin’, my Lord, Kumbayah … Someone’s textin’, my Lord, Kumbayah”
          Web 3.0 = “You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.”

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 19:34 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          Something like that, Kristi. In Web 3.0, nobody can hear you scream the web will do your experiments for you.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 19:56 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          and in web4.0, the machines will reject the mss that result from the experiments performed by web3.0 machines. In web5.0,humans will be hunted down and killed.the final words of the last human will be “we thought it was a good idea at the time”.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 20:09 UTC
          Martin Fenner said:

          Blogs, bloggers and blogging sound even stranger in a text written in German. We don’t have German words for most of these new Web 2.0 things. And when we try, it can go terribly wrong. Nobody knows why cell phones are called handy in Germany. Another piece of technical equipment known under this name only in Germany is the beamer.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 20:54 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          Hmm, let me try it Martin.
          “I say, Trueman, that was a handy beamer that bowled Bradman out for a duck.
          I can see that it does not quite translate, somehow.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 21:19 UTC
          Brian Derby said:

          @Martin – Beamers appear to be the local term in the nethherlands too.

          @Maxine – As the Netherlands is one of the few countries ouside the Commonwealth that also plays cricket, there could be problems there.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 23:18 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          @Henry – you are welcome to call at the house anytime, especially if you will let me touch your iPhone…

          @Martin – I thought a beamer was a BMW! I knew the mobile phone was known as a handy in Germany thanks to the knowledgeable and ever-entertaining Mr Fry.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 - 23:28 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          dog —> blog

          The blog days of summer.

          It’s been raining cats and blogs.

          With bloggéd persistence, she continued to write.

          That blog won’t hunt.

          How much is that bloggie in the window?

          You ain’t nothin’ but a hound blog.

          “I’ll get you, my pretty, and your little blog too!”

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 07:08 UTC
          steffi suhr said:

          Adding to Henry’s list:

          • [something] on the radar
          • let’s get on the same page
          • long story short
          • [someone] didn’t do their homework
          • issues
        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 08:05 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Kristi – thanks for that but I’m afraid I’m stuggling to see where you’re coming from. And a little fearful of where you might be headed….

          I don’t have such a problem with your list Steffi (apart from the last one of course) – aren’t they valid metaphors?

          And Henry, what’s so wrong with abrogate? It’s as fine a verb as I did ever meet and occurs at least once in each of my publications!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 08:49 UTC
          steffi suhr said:

          Stephen, I guess it’s the way these expressions are (over)used – usage seems to come and go in waves (although the homework one doesn’t seem to ever go away completely..)

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 09:32 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          although the homework one doesn’t seem to ever go away completely…

          Couldn’t agree more – I keep telling my kids: school-life is the easy bit!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 09:34 UTC
          Matt Brown said:

          Well, Stephen’s straight in at number 2 in the ‘most commented’ charts with his very first post. Well done, sir!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 09:48 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          I do smile at the “I hate blogs, bloggers and blogging” on the various NN front pages – talk about mixed messages. (‘mixed message’ being another overused phrase?)

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 09:55 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Thanks, but as I said to Dr Rohn at last night’s Fiction Lab at the RI, I now face the difficult problem of the second album blog…

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 10:09 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          @Kristi

          dog—> blog

          Beware. The activity known as ‘dogging’ might not be known by that particular word outside the United Kingdom.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 10:37 UTC
          steffi suhr said:

          Here’s another:

          • needless to say..

          @Henry and Kristi:
          blog→dog

          I am writing on my dog again

          Have you seen his dog recently?

          I have been spending a lot of time on my dog

          My dog helps me organize my thoughts

          What a great post on this dog

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 11:23 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          thanks for that but I’m afraid I’m struggling to see where you’re coming from. And a little fearful of where you might be headed….

          Stephen, I’m flattered that you thought I might have had a coherent plan with the dog—>blog trope, but really, I was just performing a random download of the cotton fluff candy floss daff Chihuahua brain that inhabits my skull. I’m also awaiting the arrival of Ike, so you can think of it as gale-lows humor. Maybe a bit of poking fun at the silly word “blog”, too, so on topic!

          Every blog has its day.

          Done up like the blog’s dinner.

          Oops, I’m in the bloghouse.

          @Steffi- Don’t forget the dogosphere!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 11:26 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          Famous cartoon from the New Yorker.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 11:37 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Nice one Henry!

          Kristi – well done for keeping on topic! In the spirit of your invention, here’s my effort (designed to get a rise out of Henry…):

          ablograte – to post a blog with the intention of getting on everyone’s nerves.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 11:47 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          Hmmm … “ablograte” might apply to one of the comparative blogging issues that Richard just wrote about.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 16:08 UTC
          Duncan Hull said:

          Hello Stephen, great to see another major scientist with a blog welcome to the party!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 16:22 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Duncan – you have made my day! All flattery is gratefully accepted on this blog, however undeserved. (Unless of course there was a heavy dose of sarcasm in your comment that I didn’t detect…!)

        • Date:
          Thursday, 11 Sep 2008 - 18:14 UTC
          Duncan Hull said:

          …wasn’t being sarcastic. For me “Professor” roughly equates to “Major scientist” (at least in Europe where we don’t have this Assistant / Associate Professor nonsense!)

          I’m excluding media studies of course :)

        • Date:
          Friday, 12 Sep 2008 - 13:22 UTC
          Richard Wintle said:

          Can we add “podcast” to the hit list? Please?

          Why we can’t just call these “audio files” or “recordings of me wittering on at some conference that I thought would be interesting for some of you lot to listen to at great length”, I have no idea.

        • Date:
          Friday, 12 Sep 2008 - 13:24 UTC
          Richard Wintle said:

          Oh, and on the topic of BMWs, I think the term is “beemer” (note spelling), or in some places, “bimmer”.

          This is possibly not important.

          *mumbles about Ferraris

        • Date:
          Friday, 12 Sep 2008 - 14:02 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          I don’t object to podcast, Richard, since it has a meaning beyond ‘audio file’. Doesn’t it usually refer to a regular emission (cast) in a format that can be put on a portable mp3 player? I have heard of Mac-phobes objecting to the term (Ibut I’ll bet many of them hoover the house with the vacuum cleaner…

          Thanks for the correction on the spelling of beemer – my ignorance stems from lack of possession.

        • Date:
          Friday, 12 Sep 2008 - 14:14 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          ablograte – to post a blog with the intention of getting on everyone’s nerves.

          Snigger.

        • Date:
          Friday, 12 Sep 2008 - 15:59 UTC
          Kristi Vogel said:

          ablograte – to post a blog with the intention of getting on everyone’s nerves.

          Who would do a thing like that, anyway? I just can’t imagine a rational person wasting time with attention whoring stirring up poo poking nests of cyberhornets deliberately irritating others with blog posts.

        • Date:
          Saturday, 13 Sep 2008 - 14:41 UTC
          James stern said:

          you could always put a positive edge to it and call yours a ‘Journal’ instead!

        • Date:
          Sunday, 14 Sep 2008 - 00:00 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Thanks for the positive angle but I think I’ll have to go with the flow and hope that the grinding doesn’t damage my teeth too much…!

        • Date:
          Saturday, 20 Sep 2008 - 17:30 UTC
          Robert Talamantez said:

          this is a silly article. are you into substance or fashion? this article points to the latter.

        • Date:
          Saturday, 20 Sep 2008 - 18:52 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          I’m into substance and fashion (though I prefer the word ‘style’)! Oh, and a bit of humour. I’m into that too — but I appreciate that can mean different things for different people ;-)

        • Date:
          Saturday, 20 Sep 2008 - 20:51 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          Beamer? That’s how fast bowlers spell it.

        • Date:
          Saturday, 20 Sep 2008 - 21:10 UTC
          Stephen Curry said:

          Sorry, that went right over my head (but then I’m not very tall…)

        • Date:
          Saturday, 20 Sep 2008 - 22:51 UTC
          Richard Grant said:

          this is a silly article. are you into substance or fashion? this article points to the latter.

          And that was a silly comment.


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