• Deep Thoughts and Silliness by Bob O'Hara

    Just what it says on the tin

    • I Am Not Responsible

      Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 11:30 UTC

      She is probably assuming he’s normal, though.

      Last updated: Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 11:30 UTC

      • Comments

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 15:37 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          I’m not responsible for this either

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 16:32 UTC
          Cristian Bodo said:

          She’s actually arguing against herself there too…I’ve always been told that outliers should simply be ignored…

          I didn’t get the tractor one at all, though.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 16:40 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          Richard Carter on the tractor post provided a link that may help.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 16:40 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          Hmmm. I have a question about the independence of the variables in Example 1. Do the boyfriend’s various dates know one another, and so might be manipulating the results? I bet they do, even if he thinks they don’t. In which case the assumption of normality would be violated and you’d have to subject all data to an arcsine transformation. Or uses some nonparametric test.

          And the tractor one is priceless. I’ve seen examples of the second tractor, especially when revving up to escape from muddy fields.

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 19:44 UTC
          Clare Dudman said:

          Isn’t that stranger tractor just the ordinary tractor with its wheels going, like, really fast, man?

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 19:46 UTC
          Clare Dudman said:

          Ah, just noticed the link, and think I can now safely answer myself.

          ‘Yes.’

        • Date:
          Wednesday, 04 Feb 2009 - 20:08 UTC
          Christie Wilcox said:

          Awesome.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 05 Feb 2009 - 02:46 UTC
          Lilian Nattel said:

          Thanks for the link. That tractor is pretty funny now that I get it!

        • Date:
          Thursday, 05 Feb 2009 - 05:52 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          I’m glad you’ve all enjoyed them!

          I’ve edited my text a bit, to make it a bit pithier. So, no. You’re not going mad.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 05 Feb 2009 - 13:40 UTC
          Linda Lin said:

          Bahahahaha, that’s so cool.
          But yea, like Christian, I was taught to write off the outliers as random chance…

        • Date:
          Thursday, 05 Feb 2009 - 14:40 UTC
          Linda Lin said:

          hehe, Henry has some good pointers on what if the dates in the box and whiskers plot were manipulating the results. it’s probably what skewed them from the outlier. But she convinced him it’s irrefutable, and I guess that’s what counts :)

        • Date:
          Monday, 09 Feb 2009 - 06:55 UTC
          Ken Beath said:

          The distribution of time spent together is probably quasi Poisson (it is going to be right skewed as negative values aren’t possible and it is sort of count data) so a transformation is required. Afterwards she probably wont look like an outlier.

        • Date:
          Monday, 09 Feb 2009 - 07:26 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          Ah, somebody must be leptokurtic. There’s an old cartoon about that too, but I can’t find it at the moment (it’s by George Box, and uses a kangeroo and platypus to demonstrate kurtosis).


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