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Defining Consciousness
Hans Ricke
Sunday, 24 May 2009 05:48 UTC
The special issue of the Journal of Consciousness Studies is now available here and I would like to discuss it in small portions to avoid another thread that is too huge to be read.

My first proposal is the editorial written by Chris Nunn
added 17 June 2009 14:08 UTC
Dear all, seeing how this discussion evolves I would like to keep this thread confined to two subtopics: 1. discussing Chris Nunn’s editorial and 2. discussing the general way how we want to discuss the whole special issue of the Journal of consciousness studies.
Let us open different threads for different other subtopics, e.g. articles. The big thread has quite often been criticized because of addressing too many aspects of this matter. So please, let us not fall back into the same track.
added 7 July 2009
As of today this thread will be locked for a few days. Hopefully there will be a new discussion about one of the articles soon.
added 31 July 2009
apparently there is no interest in discussing more articles of the special issue here. Thread will again be locked. If anyone is interested please notify me by a personal message.
updatded 8 September 2009
You will find two links that are related to the definition of consciousness below. The respective threads may be found this way.
Both threads have been part of a major effort of this forum dedicated to the definition of Consciousness.
Yours friendly
Hans
Two Links related to the definition of conciousness
1. the discussion of our JCS article
2. a very long thread about defining consciousness
Updated 09 September 2009 09:35 UTC
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Dear John,
I do not agree with your view on medicine. Since decades the WHO has promoted a view of health as complete physical, mental and social well-being.
When we established medical sociology as an integral part of the medical faculty in Germany in the 70ties, we were following this more holistic approach.
Then medicine was still suffering from a kind of inferiority complex of not being a “natural” science. In Germany we have this distinction between natural science and e.g. social science. Of course medicine needs to be as close to science as possible, but we face limitations because we also need to heal even if we do not always know (exactly) what we are doing.I found Max Velmans’ article quite enlightening by the way.
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Dear Hans,
Surely in medicine the holistic problems are procedural and attitudinal whereas the problem of conscious experience is physical.
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Dear all,
please reread the opening post for an update
Yours friendly
Hans
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