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    • Watson on Harvard’s low salaries, “girls”, and how to succeed in science

      Thursday, 04 Oct 2007 - 16:32 GMT

      I went to James Watson’s talk at Harvard last night with some trepidation, fully expecting him to say something offensive about women or, as he says, “girls.” (He has quite a reputation for political incorrectness, to put it mildly.)

      Well, the ever politically incorrect Watson did not disappoint. He said so many things that burned my ears that after a while, I found it to be just ridiculous and funny, and I had to laugh. I admit I laughed when, in response to a question about how to know when to give up on a research project and move on to something else, Watson said, “…when you find something else that interests you more. It’s like when you know it’s time to change girlfriends!”

      He was in town promoting his new book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science. Memorial Church on Harvard Yard was pretty full: some 300 people or so turned up, mainly undergrads and grad students from what I could tell.

      Gender issues aside, I thought Watson was bang on about science careers and in his advice to young scientists. Here are some quotes from last night.

      On careers in science

      “You should think differently and see where it goes.”

      “You should have at least one teacher who knows you and believes in you.”

      “The purpose of grad school is to teach you how to do science. You don’t have to do anything special. As a postdoc, you should do something important…go for it!”

      “Go into a field before it’s time, before other bright people go into it. But don’t do it unless you can get something important in three years.”

      “Now PhDs are so stretched out. You get your first grant at 42! Who would want to be a scientist? Your best years are your 20s. You don’t have distractions, like chores or wives!”

      “Leave a field before it bores you. Go for what excites you the most. The problem is some people stay with a subject for too long.”

      “You should talk to your competitors…the answer will come out faster if you talk.” (Context: Watson said Rosalind Franklin, whose X-ray data on DNA were so crucial for Watson and Crick in figuring out the structure of DNA, didn’t talk enough. If she did, she would have been part of the discovery, he said.)

      On writing
      “Stay clear of modifiers.”

      On the biggest questions in science today
      “How are our brains so extraordinary? I would go into neuroscience.”

      On scientists’ salaries and Harvard
      “My salary is lower than that of a major league umpire. I’m not saying umpires get paid too much.”

      “If Harvard wants to be a leader and change things, they should make the salaries (of professors) so that they are able to live around Harvard Square.

      “You have to pay intellectuals what they’re worth….We’re not paid enough. Money does count! The system is not going to keep America where it was….Hollywood can’t keep America going.”

      On women in science
      “The more [women in science], the better, as long as you don’t outnumber us.”

      On genetic enhancement of humans
      “We’ve always wanted to make the world better. It would be hard to say we wouldn’t want to make people brighter. Would I make people prettier? Yes! What mother would look forward to her daughter not finding a husband?”

      Last updated: Thursday, 04 Oct 2007 - 16:32 GMT

      • Comments

        • Date:
          Thursday, 04 Oct 2007 - 16:53 GMT
          kat young said:

          i too attended watson’s talk last night at harvard and oftentimes noticed my mouth agape after his “insights” regarding women in science. he and the president of the aforementioned esteemed university should put together a stand-up routine!
          i do wonder what would have happened if watson was born without the Y. . .

        • Date:
          Thursday, 04 Oct 2007 - 18:24 GMT
          Kristin Stephan said:

          I was there as well. Overall, it was pretty entertaining. I expected him to be much more offensive than he was, based on stories I have heard. I do think some of the critiques of modern science are accurate and some of his advice to young scientists was useful. Still, I couldn’t help but laugh at some of the comments—so outrageous and politically incorrect.

        • Date:
          Thursday, 04 Oct 2007 - 18:28 GMT
          Corie Lok said:

          Yes, sometimes he was so over-the-top, I wondered if he was saying such outrageous things just to be provocative, or does he really mean it? I’m sure it’s a bit of both, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he really meant it. He is 79 years old and is of a very different generation, after all.

        • Date:
          Friday, 19 Oct 2007 - 19:19 GMT
          Avi Ma'ayan said:

          Reading this well-written post by Corie, I was thinking: “how obnoxious”. After today’s news I’m just disgusted.

        • Date:
          Friday, 19 Oct 2007 - 19:50 GMT
          Corie Lok said:

          Yes Avi, he’s gone too far this time. And we aren’t the only ones who think this. Cold Spring Harbor announced today it is suspending Watson (who is chancellor of CSHL), “pending further deliberation by the Board (of Trustees).” I wonder if they’ll take further action.

          The Science Museum in London was supposed to host him at an event, but it cancelled in light of his comments. Doesn’t look like anyone’s coming to his defence.

        • Date:
          Friday, 19 Oct 2007 - 19:53 GMT
          Corie Lok said:

          Correction, the announcement from Cold Spring Harbor was from yesterday, Thursday.


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