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    • Working the system

      Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 14:07 UTC

      When I worked at BA we had an appalling pay award system. Everyone was given a rating between 1 and 5, then your salary increase was calculated automatically on the rating. Here’s the appalling bit. You had to apply a normal distribution to the ratings within a group, however good or bad that group was compared to other parts of the empire.

      So my boss and I, who didn’t like inflexible systems, used to work the system to make sure that we got the results we wanted, rather than the results the system automatically generated.

      Here on Nature Network blogs we have a similarly arcane system that rates how popular a blog is, using some combination of factors, but obviously linked to number of comments.

      So this post is an experiment in working the system. Specifically it is investigating two hypotheses:

      1. That it doesn’t care who does the commenting including the writer of the blog
      2. It is highly dependent on the number of comments.

      So lets see…

      Last updated: Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 14:07 UTC

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          lot

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          of

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          self-

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          contributed

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          comments

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          shift

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          the

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          ranking.

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          they

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          don’t

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          I’ll

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          have

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          to

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          ask

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          the

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          rest

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          of

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          you

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          to

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          add

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          lots

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          of

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          comments.

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          So

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          far

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          no

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          change.

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          Brian Clegg said:

          Of course, the powers-that-be could spoil the experiment by deleting this post or even revealing the algorithm for calculating blog popularity – but that would spoil the fun.

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          Brian Clegg said:

          So

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          I

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          need

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          more

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          comments

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          from

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          the

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          rest

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          of

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          you

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          to help subvert the system!

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 14:17 UTC
          Brian Clegg said:

          Apologies, I’ve probably filled the snapshots of anyone who watches this blog. That’s experimental science for you – never considering all the side-effects.

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 14:28 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          Bzzz. Deviation. That last comment had more than one word.

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 15:36 UTC
          Graham Steel said:

          Very quick on the buzzer there Bob. Well spotted.

          Brian, you’ve certainly clegged up my snapshot screen – sigh.

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 15:37 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          Excuse me, madam, but does this bus go to the station?

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 16:01 UTC
          Graham Steel said:

          New Metrics for Blog Mining

          ABSTRACT

          Blogs represent an important new arena for knowledge discovery in open source intelligence gathering. Bloggers are a vast network of human (and sometimes non-human)information sources monitoring important local and global events,
          and other blogs, for items of interest upon which they comment. Increasingly, issues erupt from the blog world and into the real world. In order to monitor blogging about important events,
          we must develop models and metrics that represent
          blogs correctly. The structure of blogs requires new techniques for evaluating such metrics as the relevance, specificity,credibility and timeliness
          of blog entries. Techniques that have been developed for standard information retrieval
          purposes (e.g. Google’s PageRank) are suboptimal when applied to blogs because of their high degree of exophoricity,quotation, brevity, and rapidity of update. In this paper, we offer new metrics related for blog entry relevance,
          specificity, timeliness and credibility that we are implementing in a blog search and analysis tool for international blogs. This tools utilizes new blog-specific metrics and techniques for
          extracting the necessary information from blog entries automatically, using some shallow natural language processing techniques supported by background knowledge captured in domain-specific ontologies.

          Brian Ulicny, Ken Baclawski, Amy Magnus
          VIStology, Inc., 5 Mountainview Dr., Framingham, MA 01701
          Air Force Office of Scientific Research, 875 North Randolph Street, Suite 325 , Arlington, VA
          22203

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 16:25 UTC
          Maxine Clarke said:

          You’ve changed from a face-off to a beard, Graham. Did I miss something?

          Metrics for blogs would be something else to have a stimulating discussion about, indeed. Maybe I’ll do a bit of cross-posting.

          Brian, how much time do you have on your hands on a Sunday? ;-)

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 16:33 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          New metrics? I’ve only just got used to metres and grammes.

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 17:34 UTC
          Graham Steel said:

          @ Bob – Nice line by one of my Swedish chums last time the crew came to Scotland 3 years ago:-

          “Is it true that in the UK you are going Metric – inch by inch?”

          @ Maine – As to the change of my profile pic, simply fancied a wee change.

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 18:38 UTC
          David Basanta said:

          test

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          Brian Clegg said:

          Bob – rats. I was trying to do a Clement Freud, but I came over all Paul Merton.

          Maxine – How much time do I have? Come on, it was a wet Sunday afternoon in Wiltshire! All the time in the world. (Ooh, arrr.)

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          Sunday, 06 Jul 2008 - 19:00 UTC
          Henry Gee said:

          If I sat there long enough tofile fifty comments on my own blog on a Sunday, irrespective of the weather, I’d be divorced. As it is we went to see Prince Crapsian.

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          Scott Keir said:

          I’m

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          not

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          sure

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          this

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          is

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          helping

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          you.

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          Scott Keir said:

          Oh, you’re number two on most commented on.

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          Maxine Clarke said:

          Graham, I now realise it isn’t a beard, but rather it is some strange kind of head gear. Any back-story to that?

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          Monday, 07 Jul 2008 - 11:09 UTC
          Bob O'Hara said:

          Right then.

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          Bob O'Hara said:

          Joint first now?

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          Bob O'Hara said:

          Yay! So let’s put Brian fully into the lead.

          (sorry, Jenny)

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          Monday, 07 Jul 2008 - 11:44 UTC
          Graham Steel said:

          @ Maxine,

          Here is a easier to view version:-

          Any back-story to that?

          Yes, but i’m afraid I can’t divulge.

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          Monday, 07 Jul 2008 - 14:23 UTC
          Heather Etchevers said:

          Need any more comments?

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          Monday, 07 Jul 2008 - 15:31 UTC
          Brian Clegg said:

          The more the merrier.

          If Firefox could get into the Guiness Book of Records for having the most downloads on a single day (which it inevitably did because no one had tried before) how about a record attempt for most comments on a single post?

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          Bronwen Dekker said:

          exactly

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          which

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          record

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          what

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          is

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          the

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          current

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          record)

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          are

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          we

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          trying

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          to

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          beat.

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          Bronwen Dekker said:

          This is seriously going to mess up the Network Snapshots of all of our contacts. But, The number of comments I made is simply a reflection of how firmly I support your point.

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          Graham Steel said:

          I

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          think

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          you

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          will

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          -wind-

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          find

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          that

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          the

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          -compact disc-

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          record

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          currently

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          stands

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          at a

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          whopping and sensational

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          149 as set recently by Rohn et al.

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          Monday, 07 Jul 2008 - 17:14 UTC
          Graham Steel said:

          Goodness gracious me!!! Welcome to the Century club Mr Clegg. How did you do it? We’ll never evah know.

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          Bob O'Hara said:

          Oh dear, oh dear.

          Anyone for a game of Cheddar Gorge?

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          Graham Steel said:

          As in this Century breaker by a certain BO’H? At a fertile 110 comments, is there gold still some lead in this gorge? Go check it out.

          Now then, now then, ow’s about, jingle jangle this “Record Breaker” attempt of 400 in under a minute !!

          Does this bus go the drum shop? – featuring Cozy Powell and Roy Castle

          For anyone reading this particular comment unaware of “Record Breakers” – here’s the wiki.

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          Tuesday, 08 Jul 2008 - 08:36 UTC
          Brian Clegg said:

          Ah, Roy Castle. Very nice man, shame about the acting in the Dr Who movie. (Anyone remember the Dr Who movies with Peter Cushing in the lead? I quite liked them when I was 11 (quite fancied the circa 11-year-old granddaughter) – for no obvious reason, they mucked around with the whole mythos, and made the Doctor just a wacky human inventor. (As I recall, the other Cushing Dr movie had Bernard Cribbins in, who has recently appeared in the TV show as Donna’s grandad. There’s circularity.)

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          Brian Clegg said:

          Sorry

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          that

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          was

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          very

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          lumpen.

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          Scott Keir said:

          Really?

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          This

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          is

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